SUPERSEDE

The white date disk makes sense to me because it occupies the space of the 3 o'clock hour marker. Matching the dial color would unbalance the dial. This problem doesn't matter with dates at 6 o'clock (like with the GO) because up-down symmetry isn't nearly as important to the human eye as left-right (think how we judge symmetry of people's faces, for example). Also in the GO case it's not even replacing the index but it'd still look good if it did.

To each his own, but IMO the notion that matching date wheel color to the dial is always superior, is wrong.

thanks for suggestion, and we did that design for Omnium K1 as it is a dressy watch. For Supersede we felt that white date disc could make the watch more sportive and feel much lighter.

Hi Rob,

We design the date disc colour in white printed black to make the dial lighter and more easier to read the date.

Thank you very much!! The door is always open here in Biel/Bienne, just give us a heads up as to when you would be visiting and we will happily show your around.

Currently we are working on our own micro-adjustment development. We will share more on that in the New Year. Supersede has a global price therefore we take care of all shipping, duties, and taxes for our customers. If you buy here in Switzerland then you can get Swiss VAT refunded when you leave, just let us know in advance.

Thank you!

@landonstirling While I am at it, the tall order, that is, I always longed for a watch that has a 12h-bezel which is geared to the movement so that whenever the 12-hour mark on the bezel crosses the hour hand either by rotating the bezel or letting the hour hand pass, the am/pm indicator on the dial flips.In this design, I think one can do away with the GMT hand. I believe this design is very intuitive and least cumbersome to change to track another timezone. I have not come across a watch with this complication yet. Has anyone?

@landonstirling Speaking of the bezel, is it expected to be rotatable? The current design seem suggest that it is a dive bezel. Thanks

@kh777 Thanks for checking 👍. The bezel will rotate like a dive bezel does.

Catching up to you now, my apologies for the delay. Thanks for the post and sharing your feedback. Glad you like the hidden hand on Supersede. By the way those hands really do pop on the Omega.

Seeing things in the metal always helps move a design forward and each day we are inching closer. As for the clasp we are working on some developments there. Engineering such things is not so easy especially when you want to bring something new to market. The project is still early and some exciting times yet to come.

Thanks again!

@landonstirling I'm giddy with excitement! I can't wait to see how you design the clasp. I hope you'll also have a quick release on the bracelet and straps and a good clasp for the straps as well (maybe with micro adjustments?). I like the clasp design Formex has for their straps but I havent tried it yet.

@MAtej Thanks for all the details. We announced Supersede early on for a few reasons such as time needed till we could ship with silicon hair springs but this time would also allow us to gain input from the community and work on some additional developments. Currently although not showing in the animation is the use of the three point adjustment we have on the buckle of Supersede which is the same as the Autark.

There are some brands doing some very nice developments such as Formex and we too have been wanting to make something of our own. These things are quite challenging but we believe we are on the right track and will share more details in the New Year around our micro-adjustment developments. 😉

Yes! I would love to know more details on bracelet too. Imo, bracelet can make or break the watch. Just look at any successful integrated bracelet style watches. I hope the bracelet for this will at least be smooth as rolexes 🤞🏽🤞🏽

Good question. We are working on a more detailed animated explanation of how the function works and will share that a little later on. Here is an overview.

Unscrew the crown to Position 1 for winding the watch, winding happens by turning the crown clockwise. In Position 3 all hands move together, the seconds stop and this is where you set your home and minutes and the date can also be changed here, however date is changed faster in Position 2. Pushing the crown in to Position 2 you can independently jump the hour ahead to your local time without affecting the home & 24 hour indicator, minutes or seconds. If you are not travelling and just want one time zone the local hand conveniently covers the home hand. If you travel you simply pull the crown to Position 2 and jump ahead to whatever time you need without influencing the home, 24hour indicator, minutes or seconds. The date is slaved to the local hand. For reference sake Supersede is very similar in functionality to something like a GMT Master II, except that the GMT Master II can have the local hand move both directions, there is an upside and a downside to that. The upside is that if you travel just a few hours either direction you can jump to local time a little quicker. The down side is that if you miss a date or are well off the date on a something like a GMT Master II then you spend far more time re-adjusting the date due to having to wind through the entire day or multiple days to arrive at the correct day. For Supersede we opted for a quick date adjust to save folks from winding through entire calendar days. This means that in the second position turning the crown clockwise the local hand jumps forward, turning the crown counter clockwise you can quickly and independently jump the calendar.

@landonstirling Ok, got it. Thanks for the quick reply!

@matias.heilala indeed the industry has not don itself a good favour to make people believe that the term dive watch equals with a watch which is suitable to take it out for an active life style. Whereas dive watches need to be very solid due to the pressure issue, a watch which can still be worn living an active life style must be comfortable, light weight and durable at the same time. On the other hand we also understand that for a professional sporting life style we perhaps better accept the fact that people use also Garmins and other sports related pure breed watches. Looking at my self having a semi-professional snowboard background and having run a MTB-company before, I wish this product to be a device which I can wear as often as possible without having to worry when going for a powder day or a quick trail ride in which I do not strap on the professional sports gear. This is what I wish this watch should be good for... serving people which out of a sudden go out having fun with their sportive life style, without having to worry about the watch they forgot to take off when taking a plunge.

200m WR and <10mm is what first got my attention. I have been looking for a thin diver, but I like Andreas plan for a universally useful 'active watch'.

I would definitely like seeing that movement. Part of the joy of a mechanical watch for me, is seeing those moving parts. If it is a closed case-back, it might as well be quartz.

@Simon Pike The feedback from yourself and everyone else has been really great. We have taken it all to heart and I think there will be some interesting things in the works as this project continues to develop. Thanks again.

@Andreas Felsl privat

Can you increase the curvature of the sapphire crystal enough to provide clearance to cap the second hand? The crystal is only slightly curved at the moment and the look of curved crystal is awesome in my opinion. It would also strengthen the crystal against deflection.

12 on top, 24 on bottom 👇😉

Very happy to hear you like the project. Well put with regards to the lack of alternatives in the market that checked all boxes you listed. We too noticed and looked to deliver with SUPERSEDE. The bezel was a ton of fun to work on and we have had some incredible feedback from industry and media due to the unique inclusion of the highly polished stacked structure and today we get to hear from yourself and the entire Horage community. This design has been in the works for 1.5 years and my hat goes off to the team for packing a lot of function in a well proportioned dial layout. Delivering something different that relayed the full function K2 calibre was the challenge and I think this look will soften the edges so to speak and come even more to life in the metal. Thanks again and great to have you along for the development journey.

We had a lot of discussion on the bezel and we are eagerly awaiting samples to see how it comes in the metal. CGI gives a good feel, but since it is massively magnified I am pretty sure it takes away with the more brutalist feel on the screen. However I like the term very much, perhaps we are a bit brutal this time ;-)

Very happy to hear you like this. The suggestion is also very nice to hear. That would be a massive project but a fun one indeed.

@landonstirling indeed haha would prefer a contract for the GMT hand, but not skeleton -- like maybe blued and a different color lume?

Brilliant approach!

This is indeed a very good approach! Wouldn't it be possible to color the GMT hand in orange, to give a better visibility?

@Xaroks It's a good suggestion. Our designers focused on putting the colour on the night/day sub-dial at 9 o'clock which mimics the skeleton home hand and helps with distinction. There has been a lot of good feedback and once we get things in the metal we will have a greater understanding of how everything looks. Thank you.

Great to hear! Looking forward to share more on this project with you.

Can’t wait to dig into the details of Supersede and share the road ahead. Should be a lot of fun.

Wonderful to hear and great to have you along for the journey!